Whisper of a Rose

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Re: Whisper of a Rose

Postby kath427 on Mon May 11, 2009 3:09 pm

No. If you look at the forum over there far from it. He told me yesterday he has another big patch coming out. It was suppose to be ready yesterday. I hope he is working on it as usually he is in the forum by now but hasn't been yet. :(
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Re: Whisper of a Rose

Postby pidpit on Tue May 12, 2009 9:28 pm

Is anyone else having problems getting on the creator's forum? He said that he was gonna have the patch out yesterday. I emailed him and haven't heard a response.
This is frustrating.


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Re: Whisper of a Rose

Postby Zemba on Tue May 12, 2009 10:42 pm

It's been down all day long and is still down as I check.
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Re: Whisper of a Rose

Postby pidpit on Wed May 13, 2009 2:05 am

Looks like the forum is back up, but still waiting for a patch.
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Re: Whisper of a Rose

Postby Elder on Wed May 13, 2009 5:16 am

I have to admit that the creator of Whisper of a Rose have heavy problems with his maintenance... but he will certainly improve :)
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Re: Whisper of a Rose

Postby kath427 on Wed May 13, 2009 1:51 pm

I reinstalled the game with the new version 1.05 and started over once again and am now stuck in a corner at the beginning. He said another patch is coming out soon though :roll:
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Re: Whisper of a Rose

Postby pidpit on Wed May 13, 2009 3:17 pm

I d/loaded the 1.05 patch to eliminate a syntax error that I got after leaving the Lady bug area, and ended up on a map that was blackened...so that's where I'm stuck for now. :cry:
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Re: Whisper of a Rose

Postby selena on Thu May 14, 2009 7:23 am

I try to download the version 1.05 on the creator website, but I can get the link.
It just says mediafire and rapidshare but there are no link. :?:
can anyone share the link?
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Re: Whisper of a Rose

Postby Elder on Thu May 14, 2009 7:27 am

Try the link on the first page of this thread, it should work.
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Re: Whisper of a Rose

Postby selena on Thu May 14, 2009 7:51 am

Elder wrote:Try the link on the first page of this thread, it should work.

I still can download the patch to ver1.05. I already have the game but ver1.03
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Re: Whisper of a Rose

Postby Elder on Thu May 14, 2009 8:53 am

selena wrote:
Elder wrote:Try the link on the first page of this thread, it should work.

I still can download the patch to ver1.05. I already have the game but ver1.03


Have you posted a message on the creator's forum?
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Re: Whisper of a Rose

Postby pidpit on Thu May 14, 2009 2:26 pm

It's been brought up, but they have yet to address it.
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Re: Whisper of a Rose

Postby kath427 on Thu May 14, 2009 3:09 pm

selena wrote:
Elder wrote:Try the link on the first page of this thread, it should work.

I still can download the patch to ver1.05. I already have the game but ver1.03

You may have to uninstall and reinstall.
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Re: Whisper of a Rose

Postby pidpit on Fri May 15, 2009 5:25 pm

1.06 is up at the forum. So far, so good... :D
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Re: Whisper of a Rose

Postby Elder on Fri May 15, 2009 5:28 pm

Then it's a great news! :D
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Re: Whisper of a Rose

Postby pidpit on Sat May 16, 2009 5:14 am

pidpit wrote:1.06 is up at the forum. So far, so good... :D


Disregard...it's no longer there. I guess there still working on it. :?
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Re: Whisper of a Rose

Postby JamiSings on Sat May 16, 2009 2:14 pm

The forums over there seem to be down this morning.

I was wondering if anyone's got a walk through worked up yet? I'm a bit lost and it's making game play kind of boring. Also does anyone know why the patches aren't downloadable? There seems to be a lot of glitches in this game. I go up stairs and get stuck in walls, for instance.
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Re: Whisper of a Rose

Postby kath427 on Sat May 16, 2009 2:45 pm

The forum is up now. A walkthrough? I doubt it! When it was suggested that we have a map for the game we were told we could make one ourselves! :shock: I am just going to wait until the whole game is really finished before I play again. Before I ever buy another rpg again I will check the forum to make sure this doesn't happen again!! :x
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Re: Whisper of a Rose

Postby JamiSings on Sat May 16, 2009 3:11 pm

Well that's pretty shabby of him. He should've worked out all the bugs first and he should provide a walk through. I guess he's never heard of the words "customer service." If we're paying for the game, we should get treated better. I'd expect this from a freeware game, but not one I paid for.
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Re: Whisper of a Rose

Postby kath427 on Sun May 17, 2009 2:14 pm

He just announced on the forum that patch 1.06 is delayed. Because of all the problems with the game they want to fix a lot more bugs. Amaranth games took it off their site due to all the problems with it. The excuse for the release early was numerous and none of them were very good. Wouldn't get paid if it wasn't released by a certain date, beta testers only tested for a week,and the one that really got me is the developer needed money for a school trip! I still think this will be an excellent game if it is done right and if I have to wait I will. I just hope the lesson was learned by this new company. I even offered to be a beta tester for them as I would give them honest feedback! ;)
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Re: Whisper of a Rose

Postby Elder on Sun May 17, 2009 3:36 pm

I just posted a new article on this subject.

http://www.blossomsoft.com/gamezopher/
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Re: Whisper of a Rose

Postby kath427 on Sun May 17, 2009 4:50 pm

VERY good article Elder! I hope every developer and potential developers of these sort of games will read it. It can made you wary of buying a game from a new company until you see what others thought of it after they played it awhile. From now on I will wait to purchase a game until I have read their forum. Except for yours of course! :D
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Re: Whisper of a Rose

Postby Paralel on Sun May 17, 2009 10:47 pm

Elder wrote:I just posted a new article on this subject.

http://www.blossomsoft.com/gamezopher/

Eh. People, glass houses, stones, etc...

The Vista incompatibility bug for Eternal Eden (which was fatal since it prevented the game from being played) that you didn't know about because you didn't test it on Vista (which was the current shipping OS for Windows based systems when EE was released) was a fairly major mistake as well.
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Re: Whisper of a Rose

Postby Zemba on Sun May 17, 2009 10:59 pm

I do believe one major bug is not the same as loads of minor/major/whatever ones.
As much as I sympatize with Arend-Jan, the betatesting work was simply (and unfortunately) skipped on Whisper.
He has my support on his upcoming versions though. ;)
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Re: Whisper of a Rose

Postby Elder on Mon May 18, 2009 12:31 am

Paralel wrote:
Elder wrote:I just posted a new article on this subject.

http://www.blossomsoft.com/gamezopher/

Eh. People, glass houses, stones, etc...

The Vista incompatibility bug for Eternal Eden (which was fatal since it prevented the game from being played) that you didn't know about because you didn't test it on Vista (which was the current shipping OS for Windows based systems when EE was released) was a fairly major mistake as well.


Hey Parallel! :)

The fact is a little wrong here, Eternal Eden was fully tested under Windows XP and Windows Vista during the development. This bug was very subtle and couldn't be perceived before a special circumstance was met (it's to say that I couldn't know it before it was sold). The bug is a conflict between Windows Vista and the DRM wrapping, not Windows Vista alone. I've even made a fan release to test the selling phase, and this bug went undetected. Let's note that this bug wasn't occuring to everyone using Vista, me included. So it made it thorny to detect before sales. As an alternative, a compatible version (without the DRM wrapping) was shipped to people running Vista, thus no one was offended as the problem was immediately resolved when support was asked. I think 99% of the customers were satisfied with the customer service, even with the Vista Crash included. Since the beginning I received only two major complaints (one of them is a member that wrote a review on gamespot.com)

Anyway, I'm not trying to level myself above any other developer, I hope I’m not giving this impression… I'm not throwing stones at anyone, I'm just trying to inform future developers of the gravity of this situation as many tend to skip the beta testing phase because they think it's not so important. I’m regularly chatting with many new developers and I can confirm that they don’t see the interest of beta-testing when I try to persuade them to take more time before releasing their game. Beta testing is when a product is finished and is being tested as a final step before release.

If you remember well, Eternal Eden was finished during September, but was delayed until december to make sure it would be as clean as possible.

As I said, unexpected bugs can happen, no one can foretell every one of them, but a distinction must be done between someone who completely skipped the beta testing phase and someone who just couldn't see a bug because it was out of sight.

Aveyond and 3 Stars of Destiny are two examples of games that have been tested properly before being released. They weren't totally bug-free, but they could be played.
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